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How does a red pill man find his own tribe (other men) in this world?
It’s a blue pill world, and by the time you are in your 30s and 40s, you may not have the same extensive social network you once had in your teens and 20s. Old friends change, move for work, get married, etc.
I’m a mountaineer, and for several years I worked hard to create and maintain friendships based upon that hobby. I was the guy putting trips together, helping newcomers to the sport, etc. But many men are beholden to their LTRs/wives in a way that prevents them from serving their own interests. Guys get shit tested a lot and they end up choosing activities that are more domestic.
So, how do you find your own tribe? Are some men better off as a lone wolf?
First off, congratulations to Erik for mastering such a masculine, wellness generating hobby as mountain climbing.
This is no doubt a conundrum many men will find themselves in as they become Red Pill aware.
As an awakened man finds himself no longer under the spell of the shadows in Plato’s cave and begins exiting The Anglo-American Matrix mentally and spiritually, there will no doubt be tension between him and the men who still seek unicorns for love and marriage, who pedestalize women, and believe in politicians and the mainstream media.
For those who aren’t already familiar with it, Plato’s Allegory of the Cave shows us there have been a class of men like us in the manosphere who have searched for the light of truth no matter where it may lead for thousands of years, rather than living lives in the dark as the masses do. The allegory is presented in Plato’s Republic:
Plato describes a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall from objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and give names to these shadows. The shadows are the prisoners’ reality. Socrates explains how the philosopher is like a prisoner who is freed from the cave and comes to understand that the shadows on the wall are not reality at all, for he can perceive the true form of reality rather than the manufactured reality that is the shadows seen by the prisoners. The inmates of this place do not even desire to leave their prison; for they know no better life.
A number of lessons can be gleaned from this allegory when compared and contrasted alongside the modern life of an awakened man.
As you begin to see beyond the shadows, Blue Pill friends will inevitably drift away from and even avoid you because they’re still under the illusion of the myths society creates to keep the average man in line. Scorn will also be heaped upon you by those who cannot see beyond the shadows…those such as feminists, SJWs, White Knights, etc.
Feminists will also despise you as they see you as a threat to their well-established con game.
In this regard, while becoming a Red Pill man is extremely liberating, it can also be very isolating in that we will always be a minority amongst men and will never be able to talk openly about what we know with those still under the spell of the mythmakers. Their power is a strong (or stronger) now than it was 2,000 years ago as we find ourselves trapped in an Age of Public Relations and Propaganda.
Thankfully, the Internet provides a meeting place, a refuge for the Red Pill man. We can also choose to spend our time doing activities and in places where there are men who think like us. I’ve personally found a large number of expat men are of the same overall mentality as me.
Many of us likely will end up as lone wolves in some way as in my personal life I’ve found I can only go so far with Red Pill knowledge with most of my friends. Some are tolerant of th unpopular truths we accept as reality, while others are scared to death by them.
Some men will just never be able to make the leap and be a strong willed man rather than a pushover Beta male. I’ve personally seen this happen with a close friend of mine, who was frivorce raped but still allows women he dates to have control over him to this day.
Beholden to Women, Clinging to the Apron
Erik goes on to share a personal story about how Blue Pill men often completely lose themselves in a relationship. This provides a good cautionary tale for other men out there about not letting women assume control over you.
An acquaintance in Denver approached me and said he thought he’d be interested in climbing mountains (based upon my reputation). His LTR said, “Sure, do it.” The guy is a highly motivated professional and I helped him select gear, train physically, and learn backcountry skills such as navigation, camping, rope handling, etc.
I set a goal with my new friend, a mountain we’d climb together after a couple trips of shorter duration to train and practice working together. The entire ramp up to the big goal was about 12 months in duration. This activity did not take over his life; We did three weekend trips together in 12 months to train and test equipment, he was generally in charge of his own progression.
This guy was loving every second of it. Initially, his wife supported it. My friend ran, lifted weights, completed a short course offered by a local organization, and tested gear and techniques. But as we got close to the big goal, and she was still overweight by about 20 pounds, she started shit testing him.
- “You can’t just leave me alone for a full week . . .”
- “I don’t know if you’re in good enough shape for this . . .”
- “Don’t you have stuff to do around the house . . .”
I tried to coach him a little, but he failed those shit tests.
There’s an important lesson here.
A woman will always try to push a man around to see what he’s made of. The best a man can do is to be firm with his decisions, be self-serving, and make his own decisions rather than succumbing to fleeting female desires.
In short, it pays dividends to be an asshole.
Women respect assholes. They loathe Beta males who let women make their decisions for them. Guys should know women don’t know what they want most of the time anyway, and have to be informed of what their opinion is by a strong willed man. (Unfortunately, the media have assumed the role of decision maker for women today, taking it away from men who have grown progressively weaker in the last 50 years.)
Continuing from Erik’s story, his acquaintance got weak in the knees after his wife started badgering his decison to pursue mountain climbing adventures and self-improvement:
In the end, we managed to do the big trip together, we summited the mountain, but he was a mental wreck.
No doubt he didn’t know what to do because she intensified the shit tests mentioned above. Beta males will always default to a position in which they allow women unwarranted influence over their personal lives.
This woman sounds like a typical Anglobitch, who spins about three or four different narratives at once. Women like this often stir up controversy just to see where the cards fall.
While she creates self-doubt in her husband and her plan to make him stop mountain climbing succeeds, deep down inside she begins to loathe him because no woman respects a weak, pussy-whipped man.
During the end of that year I had a plate who got to know my friend’s wife (very briefly.) Oddly enough, the wife told my plate a couple times that my friend was a “nuisance” around the house, sex with him was boring (“He climbs on top of me missionary!”) and she wished he would “do something for himself, to be more interesting.” THIS, DURING THE TIME SHE WAS SHIT TESTING HIM.
Notice, this female shit testing her man – trying to get him to doubt himself and cling to her apron – while at the same time complaining about him doing exactly what she wants him to do!
What a twisted universe the female mind is.
After first doubting her husband, then complaining because he obviously didn’t pass her shit test, she then goes on to make a pass at Erik!
I ran into my friend’s wife once downtown. She walked real close to me and said, “______ just sits on the couch. I wish he was as devoted to something as you are.” In that moment I felt I could have slept with her. I decided to keep that to myself. These women, they get the Beta males they asked for.
The story ends in a predictable way.
In the end, he said he was just too busy at work to climb anymore. He seems happy to be under her dominion. I can’t climb with a guy like that. We have nothing in common.
This story is a tragedy that plays out countless times. Men, so motivated by a desire for regular sex and female companionship make way too many concessions to women who enjoy pushing weak Beta males around. This is not a good position for a man to be in.
His fear of losing his woman will actually make him lose his woman by supplicating to her wishes.
In many ways, there’s just no helping a guy like this as they’ll only get angry at you for challenging the cultural indoctrination that makes them behave in such a manner.
In short, my answer to Erik is we can lead a horse to water but we can’t make him drink. We can try to wake men up with daily doses and small, bite size portions of Red Pill knowledge. It’s up to them to use it to make change in their lives.
In the meantime, taking a live and let live approach has helped me deal with this conundrum. I live my life the way I see fit, and so should other awakened men. But we have to accept some guys are just not salvageable, and that we who escape the mind control surrounding us will always be isolated in some way.
Traveling to locations that have lots of expats has been the best way I’ve found so far to meet other awakened individuals face to face. Expats seem to intuitively know what lies we are surrounded by, and many are fleeing feminist dominated nations and sexual repression. And of course, on men’s web sites like Return of Kings, The Savage Lifestyle and this one offer places to meet and discuss ideas with other Red Pill guys. That’s about all we have for the time being, unfortunately.
Not every man is capable of exiting the cave, or letting go of the apron. Our decision is to become another sheepish follower, or a lone wolf who does whatever he wants.
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